Lost/Broken Zillennial Dreams 2010

Lost/Broken Zillennial Dreams 2010

Home/Intro --- Millenial net utopia 2010 --- Lost/Broken Zillenial Dreams --- 2007 positivity --- GeeksWeb - Oldest (-Alt(a).) Nets (80s-'93)

😃Home/Intro

Shorthand explanation


* Tumblr collection: https://www.tumblr.com/millenial-net-utopia-2010 

* Personal aesth. wiki: Zillenial Broken/Lost Dreams & 2010 Millenial Net Utopia | Personal Aesthetics Wiki | Fandom 

* New blog(spot): https://zillennial-hopes.blogspot.com/2024/11/description-homepage.html

* Discussion page: Lost and broken zillenial dreams... (tapatalk)

* (Retro-Net Revival) The Anti-Capitalists[4]  ("Netpunks")

* #0 punks and emos of 2000s-2010s: basically "When we were young" fest, - safe for fact it was ...

* https://sites.google.com/view/utopistic-nostalgias/homeintro

* https://oldkidz-newblockz.neocities.org/zillennial-utopia-web-2010

😃2010 Millenial Net Utopia
* "Revolutionaire" Hyper Influencers

* startups craze...

* hipsters, swag; tumblr/twt/insta boom...(/1)

* "change!"

* hypercritical - *gen "why"* 

* edgy and fringe (pol.) movements (e.g. socialism "academia") (///1; 5)

* gov. (etc.) criticism

* start of hyperpolitization - snark, post-post-modern ("world is fucked but whatcha gonna do!? what after you fix it, just infinite revolutions??") (2b)

* (hard) soc-media boom - everyone and their dog on there... (on net) (1) (xc)

* post/meta-modern snarkiness - "Twitter (pol.) Academia" (know-it-alls - information overload, but desputable quality...)

* (zen traquility etc.) - last lapses of techno-positivism...

😃Zillenial Broken/Lost Dreams
* world, society dies (due to "capitalism exploitation") - overused, loses its meaning

* post-post-modern, snark, know-it-alls... (/2b) (#link) [gal. 2]

* world, society, what we do, is fake - all is, and makes no sense - nihilism and apathy, hopelessness...

* disenfrag. with "frutiger (eco.) futures", technopositivism

* cancelled futures, hauntology  - Mark Fisher, Deleuze, acid communism, e/acc

* simulacras, corecore - denial, blame (from millenials - world, to boomers), hate. dreams, nostalgia...

* hypercritical (2)

* (/1) cookie-cutter (YT vids) "explaining" on "evils (of... capitalism, "hegemony", "exploitation"...)"

* "golden age" (old web) - "look what they (gov ~) took away from us!"

* pre-(massive)-corpo web (pre-Google) - YT "(g)old cringe" era (cca 2005/'06-2009)

* "make work fun" - "we are like family here" (hustle culture)

** or, "work is exploitation" (/2; //1)

* Blogger Gallery Article: Zillenial Broken/Lost Dreams & 2010 Millenial Net Utopia: Gallery

😃2007 Positivity (cca. 2004-2010 era)
* "golden age" (old web) - equilibrium between News and Algo (pre-crony, -reagonomics) (*h)

* pre-(massive)-corpo web (pre-Google)  - pre-iphone mass-adoption, pre-iphone-net

* "frutiger (eco.) futures", technopositivism

* critical, but positive - simple satire jokes (in opp. to 2010 MNU hypercriticism, snarkiness & (corecore) - apathy, fake-nihilism...)

* (soft) soc-media boom...

* (next slow) commodification of alt. and punk (teenpunk,)... - scroll over #link to get to *Playlists* (music and media - end of nerd-net gate-keeping (xc)) 

* punk, emo, scene triangle before proliferstion by massmedia (/h)

😃Oldest (Alt/Alta) Nets (80s-'93)/Nerd-Net
nostalgia (related):

* warezpunk pirates ("Pirates Aacademia") (1)

* Assange, Wikileaks, Snowden, Net Neutrality... (xc) (netpunk retro freenet /b)

* Freedom of speech, knowledge, info... ("Occupy"...)

* gov & etc. criticism (/ ///1; /5)

* MySpace (personalized webs), GeoCities

* gruesome graphics, css (blingees...)

* nostalgia about web 0.5-1.0

* copying, gatekeeping

* late GVC "vibes" (/1)

* Geeks-net (BBS forums)(b)

* research boom, and positivity about life etc.

* hackers (//1), freedom (net as friend/bonus, not daily routine, inseparable from life; xc)

XC./ - sidenote:
tells us about era when avg. (older) people were afraid of youngsters on this "internet", (portrayal by News)

full of "hackers" and their terrifying clans and "banned", scary knowledge;
 
when  reddit and flickr were still cool, edgy and hipster...
 
Nostalgia takes:

"#appliances were built to last as long as possible
#not built to completely break down every five years so you're forced to keep buying the same (expensive) appliance over and over
#so we might as well consider them to be subscription models too
#fridges that only take the $52 water filter made by the same company that made the fridge
#but not the $15 water filter which is *exactly the same* but is made by a different company
#I have a Black & Decker toaster oven from 1991
#it continues to function perfectly and I will never replace it if I don't have to
#because every toaster oven built today will die at 10% of my Black & Decker's current lifespan#I hate the built-to-fail economy ..."

src: https://www.tumblr.com/tzikeh/747193893087543296 

"Because of public censorship, 
people have lost the ability to articulate why they disagree. Even if they can say what they want, they don’t know how to say it anymore. Almost no one knows how to hold a conversation because of this and that is why so many people are lonely. (r/DeepThoughts)"

submitted 4 months ago by CultofThings (archived 17 May 2024 10:27:57 UTC)

Problem/Cultural change(s), (sumarized):

- https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/18bnscv/have_we_transitioned_to_a_vibesbased_economy/

- album - https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?media/albums/lost-future-post-occupy-nonsense-world-boring-dystopia.39/

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* https://www.reddit.com/r/decadeology/comments/1c9tjyt/comment/l0pibbq/

* https://michal.sapka.me/blog/2024/send-links/

* https://michal.sapka.me/blog/2024/i-no-loger-love-the-web/ 

* The Year the Millennial Internet Died | WIRED

* The End of a Millennial Internet Era - The Atlantic

* The Year Millennials Aged Out of the Internet - The New York Times

* The Death and Afterlife of the Millennial Internet - Medium

***

* Millennials Are the New Lost Generation - The Atlantic 

* friend: I've recently reread "Benjamin Studebaker's excellent essay on what he calls the Millennial Left", and how it's basically been not much more than a giant internet meme.

and more - use e.g. DuckDuckGo, with related terms

Laconic:
oldkidz-newblockz 16 hours ago

cool! it is just brief shorthand! as timelines are literally spectrum, there are places here-and-there, (also it is broad, might have mistakes and biases...) , and i never much didnt specified (visually) the order or era. these are also second-hand XPs...

😃Links to sections:

1) nerdwebz (bbs) - 80s + 90s, 

2) zillenial (mill. + gen-z) - late 90s, y2k, mid-2000s, - think of AdPocalypse, MS Win controversy 2004 F.U.D., net on TV... 

3) 2007 positivity - think of frutiger aero, meet the robinsons, jetson retro-futu, "technozen" etc. ... web at the best, between YTP, MLG and cca 2009/2010 (2011-2013) (they all overlap)... 

4) 2010 Millenial Net Utopia - millennials taking web by balls - web as (quick) way to make money (late 2007 > 2016s), "eat the rich", it was also 4chan 4lulz, wikileaks/anonymous and aaron schwartz era (with Che Guevara vibes...  :

--- looming over in attitude, and somewhat even in graphic design of the era - no one knew if it was (2000s- early/mid 2010s) ironical use, well-meant, confussed, or wtf even... (/ by2012/13 - 2016s, vibes changes again*) ); 

-- */ by this "2nd" era, the mood of 2007/2008 econ-crisis goes even more on-nose, edgy, punk, and it is basically first wave of young people being snark, edgy, smudge and well-rounded in "games those above play" - see gamergate (noble idea, bs exe), occupy wallstreet and wikileaks,... "buying-on-house"

- (renting >>>, "beating them-above at their own game") etc. (too 2020/21 angrymen making mini stock-waves) > wakes/waves of (young) pub. consc., not being played with ... --- 

/-/-- final hit being covid era, when and after, the belief in science(-its) & media is all low...

Fig.1 - Illustrations ("Internet Stages"), by Me
Internet cycles theory, 1985-2025+
I figured the phase/stage 5 and 6 yesterday at midnight or so, which means it is not properly defined

*Stages Map, 1985-20205+
(Right-click to open in new window)

**Timeline, - coinciding Stages, Decades and theoretized Cycle-8(years)

**Political compass and "FOMO Cycle" of Stages, Decades (theoretized)

my tag is
 #2010 Millenial Net Utopia,

I repost all this elsewhere too, don't panic; there is no one else to speak of *these*, LOL...

what is it/this about?:
well... it tries to map "zeitgeist changes thru-out the years and last decade(s)" or so, i.e. "modern history" from 90s-on, 90s-2020s span mainly

X./ - l-s: 
"late-stage (capitalism)"
often wrongly defined word, with now-ambiguous, dubious meaning; [it] depends on speaker;
is this word invented as codeword; as thing to make your "class enemy" look stupid, to rage-bait them?

More (of My) Sources:
eponymous TUMBLR: page/site - frequently updated, with related posts: https://www.tumblr.com/millenial-net-utopia-2010

WEB: *(this) webpage*: https://sites.google.com/view/utopistic-nostalgias/homeintro

> https://millenial-net-utopia-2010.tumblr.com/post/747739754497490944/whats-my-age-again

> AESTHETICS WIKI: OC, coining (blog)post: https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Doom-gloom-city-pop/Utopistic_Nostalgias

> > PERSONAL AESTH. WIKI: article/page: https://personal-aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Zillenial_Broken/Lost_Dreams_%26_2010_Millenial_Net_Utopia

>promises - https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials/

> > > lost/canceled futures (delueze, fisher...), hauntology - https://forum.agoraroad.com/.../do-you-remember-now-lost-future.6219/

> > > giving up, desperation, tiredom with broken promises... - https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/young-people-%C2%B484-%C2%B414-and-on-giving-up-on-life-life-under-l-s(X.)-capitalism-where-is-my-jetpack-cancelled-futures.6412/ ("series on cancelled future" tag, category)

> / > > > album - https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?media/albums/lost-future-post-occupy-nonsense-world-boring-dystopia.39/

// related:    https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/alternative-futures-nostalgia-can-be-a-driver-to-branch-from-an-earlier-place-in-time.6609 > ../page-2#post-106630

Zoomerwave music

Z O O M E R W A V E
Thread starterレオタルドのフェティッシュ Start dateJan 21, 2023 Tags00s 2000s 90s-00s creations cultural artifacts culture early2000s mid-2000s music music artists music production music-making new authors pop pop vaporwave popular media vaporwave y2kwave zillennial zoomerwave
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#1
Basically vaporwave, but this time it uses songs and imagery from the time Gen Z grew up, hence the name. I can see myself making one with mostly taylor swift and lana del rey songs, as well as k-pop.
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#2
christtt did something similar to this with "social justice whatever" (albeit focused more on memes and internet culture as opposed to actual music) so u might wanna check that out
v v v cool concept tho :D it would b interesting 2 see how more modern music would b used in vaporwave.

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#3
I've been thinking about something similar, there's this one song I really want to fuck with called 'deja vu' by Olivia Rodrigo. She is absolutely an industry plant to capitalise on a vaguely Avril Lavrigne sound with all that moaning and groaning and frills that zoomys love. That's why I want to do something with this song.
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#4
i'm also toying with this concept recently, but i'm struggling to make it work.
i'm focused on a very specific feeling that might be relatable to early 2000's / late '90s kids (so, should i say early gen Z?) coming from that period between 2005 and 2015 when internet culture was beginning to become mainstream and kids were slowly switching from being always in front of their TVs to being always in front of their computers/phones.
during that time i remember feeling thrown into an already vibrant world far more complex and interactive than the worlds i witnessed on television, which was mesmerizing but also a bit scary. back then the internet was wild and uncensored, full of edginess and weird stuff. a place where people went to escape from reality but was ironically more "real" than the real world, in a sense. in that context, as a preteen kid, i felt like i was entering a prohibited world that i shouldn't have had access to, as if a was uncovering a secret that i was not ready to witness. in the meantime, as i grew older, that place changed because of the influx of kids like me, and became "safer", more controlled and dependent on big corporations. content became more kid-oriented, especially on youtube which became my main site for me. then, as gen z grew older, came instagram, followed by tiktok, and here we are now. but as a kid on the early internet, what i also felt was a promise, that that world would wait for me, that as a teen i would have also been able to live that freedom, that brutal reality. i idolized what i saw during that early stages, i wanted to live in the times of msn, blogs, and personal websites. of course that never happened: i followed the mass, made a youtube channel, tried sharing gaming videos etc.
now as i look back, i really want to capture the feeling i tried to describe here. that liminal instant between millennial internet and zoomer internet. i call it "early gen z entertainment".

anyway, that's a more specific take on the idea, but the general concept i find very interesting. maybe we could use this thread to share content akin to "zoomerwave" to inspire each other, or our own stuff to see if it resonates well with others and fits with the general aesthetic!
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#5
lordofthecringe said:
Basically vaporwave, but this time it uses songs and imagery from the time Gen Z grew up, hence the name. I can see myself making one with mostly taylor swift and lana del rey songs, as well as k-pop.
People already do that, just see the new emo revival movement, and the bloated nostalgia of the early to late 2000s, i've seen so many people trying to recreate that aesthetic as a cope for the misery of their persona.

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#6
lordofthecringe said:
Basically vaporwave, but this time it uses songs and imagery from the time Gen Z grew up, hence the name. I can see myself making one with mostly taylor swift and lana del rey songs, as well as k-pop.
As someone who's also gen-z, this sounds kinda lame, and not just because I've always been a weird contrarian little shit who never like the popular stuff of my childhood, I more got made fun of for my interests through early childhood, and I don't feel like k-pop has become popular recently enough to even have a nostalgia factor.
Honestly, part of the draw of vaporwave to me is that it's kinda ephemeral and beyond my understanding, "nostalgia for a time you never knew," and all that jazz. I mean, do keep in mind that Vektroid, a.k.a Macintosh Plus is only 30, and the classic Diana Ross song that she slowed down and probably got half of us into the genre is a full 10 years older than her.
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#7
the closest thing to that i can think of is the whole slowed reverb thing going on, and while i do like that it's filled with 15 year olds in the comment section crying about getting no bitches. As for actually vaporwave with "gen z music", I think that genre is simply too new for it to get vaporwave remixes.
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#8
Chao Tse-Tung said:
As someone who's also gen-z, this sounds kinda lame, and not just because I've always been a weird contrarian little shit who never like the popular stuff of my childhood, I more got made fun of for my interests through early childhood, and I don't feel like k-pop has become popular recently enough to even have a nostalgia factor.
Honestly, part of the draw of vaporwave to me is that it's kinda ephemeral and beyond my understanding, "nostalgia for a time you never knew," and all that jazz. I mean, do keep in mind that Vektroid, a.k.a Macintosh Plus is only 30, and the classic Diana Ross song that she slowed down and probably got half of us into the genre is a full 10 years older than her.
Wait, Macintosh Plus is a SHE!? WAIT, MACINTOSH PLUS IS A AN ACTUAL REAL PERSON!? I always thought she was just, idk, a youtube video :confusedMikasa:
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#9
Jackeline said:
Wait, Macintosh Plus is a SHE!? WAIT, MACINTOSH PLUS IS A AN ACTUAL REAL PERSON!? I always thought she was just, idk, a youtube video :confusedMikasa:
Macintosh Plus was like the first vaporwave artist who made the album Floral Shoppe which contains The Computing Of Lisa Frank. She was also an electronic artist known as Vektroid, and Floral Shoppe was kind of a joke experiment release by her. Around the same time, ECOJAMS VOL. 1 was released by another electronic artist under a pseudonym, Daniel Lopatin under the name Chuck Person, and from those two albums basically synthesized the entire genre of vaporwave and most of its subgenres.

Do people really not know the history of vapoewave on this vaporwave forum?
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#10
Chao Tse-Tung said:
Macintosh Plus was like the first vaporwave artist who made the album Floral Shoppe which contains The Computing Of Lisa Frank. She was also an electronic artist known as Vektroid, and Floral Shoppe was kind of a joke experiment release by her. Around the same time, ECOJAMS VOL. 1 was released by another electronic artist under a pseudonym, Daniel Lopatin under the name Chuck Person, and from those two albums basically synthesized the entire genre of vaporwave and most of its subgenres.

Do people really not know the history of vapoewave on this vaporwave forum?
I know bro, i was just joking.
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#11
This was an E R A

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#12
sounds cringe honestly, gen z go make your own thing smfh
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#13
handoferis said:
sounds cringe honestly, gen z go make your own thing smfh
Maybe it is a statement within itself that Gen Z are incapable of something original, whether they meant to express that or not :elonE:
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#14
Anyone know if we got Baroquewave yet?
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#15
Jackeline said:
People already do that, just see the new emo revival movement, and the bloated nostalgia of the early to late 2000s, i've seen so many people trying to recreate that aesthetic as a cope for the misery of their persona.

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I'd rather see this stuff get revived again than see the original vaporwave aesthetic become the bastardized version of itself that it is now. At least the new stuff coming out is DIY again and not some b.s that corpos picked up and started exploiting to cater to millennials from a marketing standpoint. I can't go anywhere on the internet anymore without seeing ads that have that fake try hard version of what was once a really grassroots scene that parodied the very thing it's become. Maybe I'm just being a boomer about it.View attachment new-coca-cola-limited-edition-design-mexico-vaporwave-vibes-v0-bmuhk7j0bu991.webp

#16
I can't imagine getting too nostalgic about the early 2000s. The video games were pretty great, but the music was terrible. I guess that there were still good movies. I always thought that Vaporwave was good music coming back to haunt the desolate modern media landscape. Either way, I hope for a day when I never have to hear whiny emo trash again.

I know the idea is that we're nostalgic for our childhoods, but I grew up in the 2000s and I remember preferring old music even back then.

#17
I'm Gen Z and I find this pretty nostalgic since I grew up with the software

View: https://stargazingatblankskies.bandcamp.com/album/download-now

#18
r_______g said:
that period between 2005 and 2015 when internet culture was beginning to become mainstream and kids were slowly switching from being always in front of their TVs to being always in front of their computers/phones.
i wanted to make something like this from songs on Bilboard 100 wiki article, 2007 - 2013
look up my youtube, the last (and ONLY - no inspo) song i sampled (link in bio under buttons)
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#19
I don't think this would work well as vaporwave. Maybe a similar subgenre, but that's the most I can think of
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#20
ALIXX- said:
I don't think this would work well as vaporwave. Maybe a similar subgenre, but that's the most I can think of
Vaporwave is dead as fuck

and i buried it. :tou4:
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Thread starterレオタルドのフェティッシュ Start dateJan 21, 2023 Tags00s 2000s 90s-00s creations cultural artifacts culture early2000s mid-2000s music music artists music production music-making new authors pop pop vaporwave popular media vaporwave y2kwave zillennial zoomerwave
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#21
lets make art like mine
i deleted parts of song to add n o s t a l g i a to it
so can this be its own genre, like
"mem-rot" or?
beggining, song (delete part), beggining, rapid cut (delete)
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#22
It kinda already exists with 'slowed down + reverb' edits of contemporary pop music. Millennials made vaporwave using 80s and 90s aesthetics, but what I'm curious about is how gen alpha will be nostalgic for Corporate Memphis and make it cool in 2040 something

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#23
JihyoParkXX said:
I'm curious about is how gen alpha will be nostalgic for Corporate Memphis and make it cool in 2040 something
There's not a lot of shit that keeps me up at night but this is one of those things.
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#24
JihyoParkXX said:
It kinda already exists with 'slowed down + reverb' edits of contemporary pop music. Millennials made vaporwave using 80s and 90s aesthetics, but what I'm curious about is how gen alpha will be nostalgic for Corporate Memphis and make it cool in 2040 something
i like old memphis, but not the new one
primary colors, shapes ... *(from painting tho, so YBR, not RGB)
also, airbrush arts + geom. shapes, with comps/grids (80s-90s)
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#25
Technically speaking, this is already being done.

"A3" samples "Too Little, Too Late" which released in 2006, and "Castles in the Sky" which released in 2000.

and "ℬÆ" samples the 2012 song "Blow Me"

#26
JihyoParkXX said:
but what I'm curious about is how gen alpha will be nostalgic for Corporate Memphis and make it cool in 2040 something
SpeedSleek said:
There's not a lot of shit that keeps me up at night but this is one of those things.

Kinda makes me want to destroy the world to prevent such an unholy abomination from ever coming into existence.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGhTGBx9lC0

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#27
JihyoParkXX said:
It kinda already exists with 'slowed down + reverb' edits of contemporary pop music. Millennials made vaporwave using 80s and 90s aesthetics, but what I'm curious about is how gen alpha will be nostalgic for Corporate Memphis and make it cool in 2040 something
Frutiger Aero is the best one

#28
an interesting concept if executed well
can i get a pack of reds and $10 on pump 6

#29
JihyoParkXX said:
what I'm curious about is how gen alpha will be nostalgic for Corporate Memphis and make it cool in 2040 something
They'll probably combine it with their nostalgia for nightcore by speeding up music instead of slowing it down.

#30
the discussion of gen z not making anything original could honestly make a good aspect into zoomerwave. zoomerwave could be about being lost on just about everything, hobbies, goals, memories, creativity and the motives that are blurred that got us here in the first place. the corporations we see around us are no longer the brands we used to think them as are just fatigue now and blurred into our minds. but i guess that would get the so called "zoomy crybaby 15 year olds" in here which i don't know how to feel about it. i guess time will tell but i like the idea of expressing such feelings in a genre similar to vaporwave.
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OppositeKeith said:
the discussion of gen z not making anything original could honestly make a good aspect into zoomerwave. zoomerwave could be about being lost on just about everything, hobbies, goals, memories, creativity and the motives that are blurred that got us here in the first place. the corporations we see around us are no longer the brands we used to think them as are just fatigue now and blurred into our minds. but i guess that would get the so called "zoomy crybaby 15 year olds" in here which i don't know how to feel about it. i guess time will tell but i like the idea of expressing such feelings in a genre similar to vaporwave.
i tried, see my soundcloud lol

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Some_porcupine said:
i tried, see my soundcloud lol

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its a good attempt really. cant say that too much cause im not deep in vaporwave but i definitely would've wanted more in these kinds tracks as they come as bare bones most of the time.
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Some_porcupine said:
i tried, see my soundcloud lol

View: https://soundcloud.com/jur-a-29499395/vaporwave-alice-deejay-better-off-alone?si=9f6dcf219bb549d9864350163832d721&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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here i go, with my new compilations of , straight from my childhood years - these were blasted very so often from the radio...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESmZKFe6B0Y&list=PL9CUfp200TTO8MkvJCkBMsV7g1QhDaroz&pp=iAQB
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#34
I've just listened to this and it strikes me for several reasons:

1) It focuses on the digital glitches of the 00s-10s like vaporwave focuses on tape and vinyl glitches. The sounds are bassboosted and broken and the voices are harsh and blown out.

2) It focuses on the main parts of the song and loops over them.

3) It's from a time period generally considered nostalgic or "old" from the zoomer time period.

When Porcy mentioned it on chat and I heard it I thought immediately of this thread.
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im on my school laptop rn so let me just make a list.

Things Etierhuman grew up with.

-Fnaf
-VenturianTale
-Gmod
-Jacksepticeye
-mlp
-transformers
-fgteev (if ykyk)
-baldi

now for songs I can name off the top of my head.

-Pompeii, Bastille
-Call me maybe
-shake it off
-gangnam style
-most living tombstone songs
-ransom, lil tecca
-that one overwatch song by tlt
-nightcore, tons of it.
and that's everything rn.
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#36
You could say that frutiger aero is the beginnings of something that could be called zoomerwave, but I feel like a lot of things that zoomers would be nostalgic for kind of clash with frutiger aero. Most of the music that I can think of that came out between 2004 - 2015 was quite energetic, and so were a lot of youtubers and such that zoomers grew up with. Aero in comparison is quite chilled out (take this as an example) so I'm not sure how compatible they both are.

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mikadomuncher said:
You could say that frutiger aero is the beginnings of something that could be called zoomerwave, but I feel like a lot of things that zoomers would be nostalgic for kind of clash with frutiger aero. Most of the music that I can think of that came out between 2004 - 2015 was quite energetic, and so were a lot of youtubers and such that zoomers grew up with. Aero in comparison is quite chilled out (take this as an example) so I'm not sure how compatible they both are.
idk, maybe it is all personal thing
like, when you dont generalize (this is not attack) whole generation as one stable clump of people...?
there is late gen-z (cca 2000-2004), middle (2004-2008), early (2008-2012) - you can miss what you didnt had (anemoia), listen to girlbands if your sister was millenial or like them, esp. when they start to play them once again ... (avril, corrs, spice girls (1999)...)
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#38
putting waporvave on thing that came out 6 months ago.

sound hella lame but what do i kno

#39
I feel like zoomer wave would be to feel nostalgic about that period that catered to millenials, like it would be LMFAO remixes and things like bigbang theory instead of seinfeld, occupy wall street instead of 9/11 things like ray Willian Jonson or icarly.

It could be done really tastefully or really disgustingly.

I don't know how to feel about it.
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Boxerdog said:
I feel like zoomer wave would be to feel nostalgic about that period that catered to millenials, like it would be LMFAO remixes and things like bigbang theory instead of seinfeld, occupy wall street instead of 9/11 things like ray Willian Jonson or icarly.

It could be done really tastefully or really disgustingly.

I don't know how to feel about it.
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レオタルドのフェティッシュ said:
can see myself making one with mostly taylor swift and lana del rey songs, as well as k-pop.
That's a hell of a music lineup lmao.

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That's a hell of a music lineup lmao.

Zoomerwave should play into the whole clips and tiktok sounds thing, short and repeating samples with plenty of reverb something like eccojams was. The stuff that's posted here is kinda there, although not all that appealing to the ear (subjective tastes yadda, yadda). I think it has some potential if done well but has as much coherent footing as "frutiger aero" does as a music genre. Could be a subgenre I guess.
that is more younger-zoom, alpha, npc playlist for me
older zoomers imho listened to 2000s pop songs (on tiktok too, but not the newer ones - i speak of 1995-2014 ones, that share era with, but dont have to spec. be, frutiger aero)
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The face tattoos make it for me.
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#46

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a-FQKi9hTs

#47
Hobo8239 said:

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good trance, terrible premise
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#49
レオタルドのフェティッシュ said:
Basically vaporwave, but this time it uses songs and imagery from the time Gen Z grew up, hence the name. I can see myself making one with mostly taylor swift and lana del rey songs, as well as k-pop.
pluggnb is my best similarity to that

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESmZKFe6B0Y&list=PL9CUfp200TTO8MkvJCkBMsV7g1QhDaroz&ab_channel=newgeneMCMXCIX

made this [zoomerwave]
there are more playlists also on my profile
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#51
I guess I've been seeing a similar thing with the whole hexd/surge stuff.

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Not only does the genre use bitcrushing effects to make them sound like mysterious low-quality mp3s on a first gen iPod, but plenty of times the covers of these songs are accompanied with visuals of some edgy and cool parts of Gen Z childhood nostalgia such as anime images from Nightcore videos, Sonic and Kingdom Hearts characters, old internet memes, etc.
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#52
I think it could be interesting, as a gen z myself.

Using things that most of this generation find nostalgic could end up on creative content but honestly, if you want an answer to this, just wait.
People from this generation are still developing this. There's already trends and memes who are similar to such idea.

#53
I feel like this fits the aesthetics of what this thread is going for even though theres no vaporwave music to go with it.
This is moreso aimed at the early part of Gen Z that would've been born 97-00

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Tiv5b8NFg
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Hobo8240 said:
I feel like this fits the aesthetics of what this thread is going for even though theres no vaporwave music to go with it.
This is moreso aimed at the early part of Gen Z that would've been born 97-00

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View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c0jpBb2lR0o

I feel like this is similar in nature too. Eerie empty spongebob backgrounds set to sad Minecraft music. Not really vaporwave, but it's the closest thing I can really think of to what you posted.

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Does this count?
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as unbelievable painful that video is to watch, it's probably the best example of zoomerwave in this entire thread
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maybe it is "\=wave", since joining of y and z delete the / of both y and z, idk
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View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c0jpBb2lR0o

I feel like this is similar in nature too. Eerie empty spongebob backgrounds set to sad Minecraft music. Not really vaporwave, but it's the closest thing I can really think of to what you posted.
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The liminal spaces / eerie and empty aesthetic really rocked the world in 2020. Curious how it gets tied in with childhood memories like in the video, maybe its expressive of zoomer/modern social isolation? Hell, look at my prof. pic.

Edit: It might also be interesting to note how between liminality, slowed+reverb, backrooms, etc., there seems to be a throughline of nostalgic longing mixed with sadness. It's not like 80s nostalgia, where anyone will tell 'oh yeah the 80s were the very bestest ever' but instead has this tone of extreme solitude or lost innocence or happiness. Maybe I'm just projecting, or making too much out of that observation.
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Polonius said:
The liminal spaces / eerie and empty aesthetic really rocked the world in 2020. Curious how it gets tied in with childhood memories like in the video, maybe its expressive of zoomer/modern social isolation? Hell, look at my prof. pic.
I've always attributed the success of the whole liminal spaces phenomenon to growing up and finding the places and things you loved abandoned, run down or less filled with life than when you engaged with them as a child. There's a sad type of nostalgia to revisiting a place and seeing how all the attributes you put on it are run down, vanished, or not as bright and big as it you remembered them.

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I've always attributed the success of the whole liminal spaces phenomenon to growing up and finding the places and things you loved abandoned, run down or less filled with life than when you engaged with them as a child. There's a sad type of nostalgia to revisiting a place and seeing how all the attributes you put on it are run down, vanished, or not as bright and big as it you remembered them.

That's probably somewhat of of an explanation for why certain older abandoned online games or older console games like Mario 64 or similar media tend to get lumped in with liminal spaces. As a kid it's all so new and exciting and your imagination fills in the gaps with the technological limitations and over time your mind remembers it imperfectly. There's a whole trend of people coming back to Mario 64 as adults saying it feels empty and eerie for example, and I think it probably has to do to that.
There was a practice among monks in Japan where they would visit the open grave of a beautiful woman to witness the body decay in order to eliminate lust and reflect on how life is fleeting and impermanent. I feel like that is reflected here in our consumerist landscape.

Also wanted to mention that future nostalgia videos will be phone videos of CRTs and computer screens as this was a popular way to record gameplay which causes the sound and image to degrade significantly.

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